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Forum index -   Wanna buy: Thinking of '04 Multi-Valve guides-other issues?
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Barry Krivisky
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Location: US LI NY

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:42 pm Reply with quote

I have posted this inquiry under Problems as well, as it fits both forums. I apologize if this is a breach of protocol.

I am considering a used Multi at a dealer. Can anyone tell me if the following '04 vin is one of the valve guide issue bikes, and whether there is a way to find out if it has been done. The dealer seller says it doesn't know. Shouldn't it be able to find out? Are there any other issues I should be careful of on this particular MTS?

ZDM1VABP34B006427

Thanks,

Barry
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motodave
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 171
Location: Bothell WA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:17 pm Reply with quote

I am at home right now and dont have access to run your vin number but I did have this saved on my home comuter for the valve guide issue. Mr. Green
SVC-06-011 All Ducati models equipped with 1000 DS engine

This is to inform you that on the 1000 DS engine the intake and exhaust valve
guides could wear out prematurely. This condition could cause lack of compression
and excessive oil consumption.
In order to eliminate this condition a new copper alloy material has been introduced
in production. Starting with December 2005 production all 1000 DS engines above
a designated engine number have been equipped with valve guides made of the
new copper alloy.

Super Sport 1000 starting w/engine number:
• LAB6030179
Monster S2r 1000 starting w/engine number:
• RAB026287
Sport Classic Sport 1000 starting w/engine number:
• WAB6026147
Sport Classic Paul Smart 1000 starting w/engine number:
• WAB6026193
MTS 1000 starting w/engine number:
• VAB6027428
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Barry Krivisky
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Location: US LI NY

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:23 pm Reply with quote

Thanks, motodave. If you can let me know I would very much appreciate it. I am torn between some used bikes including two '04's and a left over '05 and '07 as well as a used '07. Whether I will be faced with this issue effects my decision greatly as the "bargain" is lost if faced with a big repair bill. How much is it to change the valve guides?
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francis01g
MTS: 2004 1000 DS (Red)

   

Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Posts: 28
Location: USA, WA

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:07 am Reply with quote

I have motor number VAB400782. Is this a warranty issue with Ducati I have a 2004 1000DS
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bil
MTS: 2005 1000S DS (Black)

   

Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: usa, penn valley, california

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:51 pm Reply with quote

Valve guides on 05 multis were junk also, mine were bad at 3500 miles, 06 and 07 have also had some problems
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Blackmulti
MTS: 2004 1000 DS (Black)

   

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Location: Oregon

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:03 am Reply with quote

I bought my '04 almost two years and 8000 miles ago. I am the third owner. Who knows what was done to it before I got it and all I've done is normal maintenance. The thing runs like a top and I would take it anywhere tomorrow. I'd say tonight but it was a tough day at work that required a little vodka to temper. 10 hours bottle to throttle is what I say.

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maddog
MTS: 2005 1000 DS (Red)

   

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Location: honolulu,HI usa

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:58 pm Reply with quote

I have a 05 MTS 1000ds with 40K (original owner) miles & when newer, Ducati mechanic said valve guides look good, but now at 40K & different Ducati mechanic now says valve guides need rebuilding? Told me to many miles for Ducati to cover, but if they know of the problem should they fix it no matter.
Any help appreciated with this problem.

Mad Dog in Hawaii

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lotus54
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MTS: 2005 1000S DS (Red)

   

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Location: Port Angeles, WA USA

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:41 am Reply with quote

maddog wrote:
I have a 05 MTS 1000ds with 40K (original owner) miles & when newer, Ducati mechanic said valve guides look good, but now at 40K & different Ducati mechanic now says valve guides need rebuilding? Told me to many miles for Ducati to cover, but if they know of the problem should they fix it no matter.
Any help appreciated with this problem.

Mad Dog in Hawaii


Sorry to heat of the issue.

If indeed at lower mileage they were fine and now bad- Ducati may have an argument.
But i think that t 40k they really shouldn't be bad...

Several places with replace the guides at a fairly reasonable price.
Do you want me to come over and pop off the heads for you?

(How are things going?- sure was fun having you guys visit)

Mark

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Android
MTS: 2003 1000 DS (Red)

   

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Location: Christchurch, UK

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:53 am Reply with quote

Hi Maddog
Valve guides wont last forever because the the rocker arm following the cam works on an arc so it puts a slight pressure side to side every time it opens the valve.

I got mine done at 35,000 and have noticed that last I did my shims/collets
that they could do with replacing again ..at 90,000 miles.

The engine will start to burn oil before they really get bad as the valve stem seals will be unable to cope with the movement, probably from the front pot first as the exhaust valve actually sits in oil when at rest.

don't loose any sleep over it just save a few bucks each month ready to get it done sometime

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maddog
MTS: 2005 1000 DS (Red)

   

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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Location: honolulu,HI usa

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:56 pm Reply with quote

Aloha Mark,
No oil leaking or burning between oil changes yet so I'll run it into the ground till I notice oil low & then take care of it. You & the wife always welcome in Hawaii & you can use my bike or 4Runner if you need transportation.
Mahalo.
We still always talk about that ride to the Olympics on PCH.
Mad Dog

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lotus54
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Location: Port Angeles, WA USA

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:55 pm Reply with quote

maddog wrote:
Aloha Mark,
No oil leaking or burning between oil changes yet so I'll run it into the ground till I notice oil low & then take care of it. You & the wife always welcome in Hawaii & you can use my bike or 4Runner if you need transportation.
Mahalo.
We still always talk about that ride to the Olympics on PCH.
Mad Dog


Sounds good!

She is heading to Patigonia this winter (some of us have to stay home and work)

Mark

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