How bad are the scuffs, and do you know the size? Disclosure: I'm looking for hard bags, I just don't know if I would use them enough to justify $850.

Tom


I don't actually know, yet - that was how the dealer described them. I suspect it is the typical rubbing associated with a missed dismount ...

I've narrowed my search down to two bikes, similar miles, same model year - one S, one "regular." The S also comes with the Ducati hard panniers, which I don't like/want, but of course add yet more cost to that bike, putting it slightly beyond what I want to pay.

So, I have to consider buying the ...