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[jmhinkle 2007 1100S (Black)]

I went to the dealer yesterday to check the strada out. I couldn't test ride because I had my 3 year old with me. I do have a few questions though that I can't seem to find the answers to after much searching.

1) S or not to S? Are the Ohlins worth it for a bike that will be a commuter? The test ride bike is only an S so I can't judge that very well when I ride. Does the greatness of the Ohlins show in real world use and not just track days? Having the choice between a stock S or non S with race kit (ECU full pipes etc..) what would you choose and why?

2) Is the 620 worth a consideration? They have a brand new one sitting there and the price sure is nice, but I'm not sure if it is worth it. I read several posts that the 620 suspension is pretty bad. Is it out of the question if I ride two up once in a great while?

3) Just how expensive is it being a Duck owner? For '07 they are really pushing the 50% lower maintenance costs, but 50% of extremely high is still high. Just how bad is it really? I like to do my own maintenace anyways so is this still an option with the Duck or not while it is under warranty?

Thanks for the help

[lotus54]

I think the 'S' is worth it for all sorts of use- most noticeable probably on roads that are not as great (bumpy). But the standard is still pretty good on the 1100.

The 620 suspension is probably the weakest park of the 620 (from what I understand, I've never even ridden one). If it is pretty close to what you need it probably is fine, but not much adjustability (please correct me someone if I am wrong). Perhaps it is just the forks with minimal adjustments?

I like the power of the 1000/1100, not so much top end as low/mid. I am guessing the 620 has less down there, but again, I've never ridden one.

I've done all my own maintenance (I did pay for the 600) and no problems with the warranty. I do keep records of everything I do, including receipts for oil/parts etc.
You will need a few special tools, like the Technoresearch tool, shim kit, turning tool.
If you are near a good dealer, you don't NEED a shim kit, but it makes it a lot easier. Same with the Technoresearch tool, you can do many things without it.
I think the Multi is pretty easy to work on. The only think that is harder than it could be is the time taking the fuel tank/seat off. Even that is not too bad once you've done it. The valves are easy to adjust (especially the openers) as long as you take your time. Belts are easy to change also.

If you pay for all your maintenance, it may get expensive, but I think that is true with most all bikes. Ever one has something that is a pain. They do charge a fair amount to adjust the valves, but the typically don't need it after 6k. Or at least very often at all.

Mark

[ge360 2006 620 (Red)]

2) Is the 620 worth a consideration? They have a brand new one sitting there and the price sure is nice, but I'm not sure if it is worth it. I read several posts that the 620 suspension is pretty bad. Is it out of the question if I ride two up once in a great while?

Thanks for the help

"620 suspension is pretty bad" no, easy to adjust, no also.

I ride 2 up occassionally without issue.

[jeffpm 2005 1000S DS (Black)]

I have the 1000, but also considered the 620. Your choice depends on what the majority of your riding will be. I commute 8 miles into work and it is all surface streets - lots of stop lights, buses, cars, bicycles, etc. I wish I had the 620 for this, its lighter weight is really noticeable. But I chose a 1000 because the riding I do the most is medium distances into the country - 200 to 300 miles in a day. The extra power and weight help on the freeway.

I rode both an 'S' and a non-'S' and I really couldn't tell that much difference. I'm not a super aggressive rider and the standard model is fine. I chose the 'S' simply because the non-'S' was sold before I could make an offer. Personally I would choose suspension upgrades over engine upgrades.

The main expense with Ducks as far as maintenance are belts and valve clearance checks. Parts will be a little more expensive but not that much more than a bike from the big 4. As mentioned belts are easy and valves need checking at regular intervals, but generally don't need adjusting once they bed in.

Get a test ride when you can, you'll really enjoy it.

[coman 2015 1200S (Red)]

I have a 620. Not had it a long time, but I'd say the suspension was well specified and up to its task. I have not noticed any handling issues - in fact, it tracks extremely well, even over the bumpy, potholed, repaired and twisty roads we have in the UK. I have ridden two up occasionally (light ladies) and have not noticed any deterioration in handling.

For commuting I think the 620 would suit you very well. It is about 13kg lighter, has a lower seat height, a wet slipper clutch, so is very nippy.

It has less power than the 1000, obviously, but to me it has more than enough for everyday and pleasure riding. The power and performance available is very usable, and it easily keeps up with bigger bikes.

It just depends on your priorities. If you feel you may be missing-out with a less powerful bike, then go for the 1000. If not, buy a 620 and keep the change.

[Hampus 2003 1000 DS (Gray)]

I'm not sure the service cost is higher. A Varadero and a Tiger has higher service cost according to a swedish bike magazine. Don't forget the Varadero and the Tiger need service every 6000 km!

[robhar54 2006 620 (Red)]

I have a 620, with now 5200 miles, probably 3,000 of those in commuting miles in pot-holed urbanity, the rest on long road trips. The suspension is definitely the weakest point. I think whether the suspension works for you depends on your weight and riding style. I'm kind of a big guy (215 lbs) and I like to (occasionally) ride fast. You can probably buy the 620 and put Ohlins forks and shock on it for less than you'd pay for an 1100...and end up with a lighter, easier to ride bike. The slipper clutch of the 620 is awesome. Take it out for a ride, see what you think. To my mind the 620 motor is nicer. Definitely smoother. It's plenty powerful for me, in 95% of situations.

If you go for the 1100, definitely get the S.

Rob in Seattle

[MJG 2007 1100S (Red)]

So -what's up -are you getting this bike- tell your wife we said it's ok- and also ok to spend a few k on extras :-0

[jmhinkle 2007 1100S (Black)]

I'm still waiting to get my bike back from more warranty work and then I will take it up to try to work a deal on it. If the deal works out, it will be after Thanksgiving before it happens. Currently waiting on parts to arrive for my bike before it comes back home. I really hope to get the bike, but it all depends on the numbers in the end.

[cjburbank 2006 1000 DS (Red)]

I'm still waiting to get my bike back from more warranty work and then I will take it up to try to work a deal on it. If the deal works out, it will be after Thanksgiving before it happens. Currently waiting on parts to arrive for my bike before it comes back home. I really hope to get the bike, but it all depends on the numbers in the end.

Any update? I'm currently debating between the 620 and 1100, so I would like to hear what you went with.

[jmhinkle 2007 1100S (Black)]

For me it has been the 1100S. I just couldn't go back to the 650 size range no matter the deal. I actually gave up the other day too because the deal just looked bad. Since today is last day of the month, they called back with a great deal and whole new attitude. I'm just juggling between lenders for the best deal before signing papers. If everything works out, should know tonight for sure. Cross your fingers for me.