Wanna buy » MTS 1000s or ????

[collyer]

New member here, so flail away at my ignorance. I'm coming from a MX/trials/RR past. I have had a few BMWs, and ridden many Japanese sport bikes (thanks, but no thanks), and a big KTM fan. Currently riding an '02 KTM Duke II, I am sold on the riding position & torque of a thumper (and V-twin). Spoiled by WP suspension & a decent riding skill set, I am down to a (gasp) Yamaha FZ1 or a MTS 1k. I know where the skew leans here, but I am wondering if anyone here has time on both bikes to compare? The MTS seems right for all the types of riding (city/sport/long trips/hooligan activities), and I'm itching to to get to the next (better) step. Also, another stupid Q is: Is the Ohlins worth the S upgrade? I the non-S suspension just crap? I'm new to Ducati, but not to buying the right stuff.

TIA

PS: anyone wanna buy a perfect Duke II?

[Kurt 2006 1000S DS (Black)]

New member here, so flail away at my ignorance. I'm coming from a MX/trials/RR past. I have had a few BMWs, and ridden many Japanese sport bikes (thanks, but no thanks), and a big KTM fan. Currently riding an '02 KTM Duke II, I am sold on the riding position & torque of a thumper (and V-twin). Spoiled by WP suspension & a decent riding skill set, I am down to a (gasp) Yamaha FZ1 or a MTS 1k. I know where the skew leans here, but I am wondering if anyone here has time on both bikes to compare? The MTS seems right for all the types of riding (city/sport/long trips/hooligan activities), and I'm itching to to get to the next (better) step. Also, another stupid Q is: Is the Ohlins worth the S upgrade? I the non-S suspension just crap? I'm new to Ducati, but not to buying the right stuff.

TIA

S=worth it. It is one of the best parts about owning the bike imo. The ride is plush beyond belief and riding 2-up means 3-4 turns vs getting out the tool. get black.

[MultiWiley 2006 1000S DS (Red)]

My good friend whom I ride with every weekend has the Duke as well. We swap often and I've noticed aside from the 620cc to 992cc, there is very similar feel between the Duke & the Duc. Torque & grunt.

He loves his Duke (it is after all a great bike for the twisty bits) but would also love to have a MTS.

I have the "S". Feels nice. Not sure in a blind side by side test (not recommended) I'd notice the difference. Maybe I would.

I had the FZ6. Similar to the FZ1 in fit & finish.

To compare the FZ1 & the MTS 1000 is a bit odd though. Fairly different bikes with very different price points. Money no object?

Hope this helps to confuse you further.

I LOVE my MTS... and chicks dig it too.

[Habanero 2006 1000S DS]

The ride is plush beyond belief and riding 2-up means 3-4 turns vs getting out the tool.

two up on the ds doesn't require any tool, come on now....a couple turns does it.

[Kurt 2006 1000S DS (Black)]

The ride is plush beyond belief and riding 2-up means 3-4 turns vs getting out the tool.

two up on the ds doesn't require any tool, come on now....a couple turns does it.

sorry, does the DS have a standard shock and not an outboard adjustment?

[Kurt 2006 1000S DS (Black)]

The ride is plush beyond belief and riding 2-up means 3-4 turns vs getting out the tool.

two up on the ds doesn't require any tool, come on now....a couple turns does it.

sorry, does the DS have a standard shock and not an outboard adjustment?

my bad, did not know that the feature was available on both setups - still like the ohlins, but I have not been on the other offering

Fully adjustable Showa shock, hydraulic remote pre-load control

[Habanero 2006 1000S DS]

the ds shock has three adjustments locations, but you can just reach down and crank up or down the preload on the fly on the right side.

you can see the black knob at the bottom of this pic

[collyer 2013 1200S (Corse)]

Which backrest is that, Habanero? That's not the stock seat (brick) is it?

$$ is always a point of contention when buying new (to me), but if a $1500 difference in suspension & other bits is discernable to someone riding for 30+ yrs.... then it's a worthy expenditure. The (new) FZ1 is cheap compared to a (new) MTS, and I'm looking at them as a do-all-fairly-well type ride. A faired SuperDuke would be optimum, but that isn't happening within my budget (dammit). A used/new 2005-6 1000 S-DS seems to be all the right stuff - now I just need to find one in my neck o' the woods.
The more I look/read about the FZ - it's good, but the FI needs work, the suspension options are zero (other than Ohlins replacements), and the whole inline 4 thing may leave me uninspired quicker than a thumping twin. Cheaper indeed.

This may hit ebay sooner rather than later.

[Kurt 2006 1000S DS (Black)]

Which backrest is that, Habanero? That's not the stock seat (brick) is it?

$$ is always a point of contention when buying new (to me), but if a $1500 difference in suspension & other bits is discernable to someone riding for 30+ yrs.... then it's a worthy expenditure. The (new) FZ1 is cheap compared to a (new) MTS, and I'm looking at them as a do-all-fairly-well type ride. A faired SuperDuke would be optimum, but that isn't happening within my budget (dammit). A used/new 2005-6 1000 S-DS seems to be all the right stuff - now I just need to find one in my neck o' the woods.
The more I look/read about the FZ - it's good, but the FI needs work, the suspension options are zero (other than Ohlins replacements), and the whole inline 4 thing may leave me uninspired quicker than a thumping twin. Cheaper indeed.

This may hit ebay sooner rather than later.

I had an 02 FZ1 for a while - if you like twins and engine braking you might very well hate the bike - power is frantic, when that sucker rolls on @ 7k+ watch out and they added more power to boot this year, totally not needed imo. my rear preload was done at 185# so forget 2-up unless you mod. The S is a totaly luxury comp to the FZ for my purposes, I find it hard to compare them. If you want a good jack of all trades and like twins the mts is a good bet - I can't wait to ride the damm thing

[Habanero 2006 1000S DS]

Which backrest is that, Habanero? That's not the stock seat (brick) is it?

Collyer,

The seat is the Ducati Comfort Seat, it is gel filled. I love it, but you have to watch leaving it in the sun, the gel gets mighty hot. May not be the seat for Dallas. But comfort-wise, I find it really nice, just enough. I don't right much highway miles, if I did, I'd probably want a bit more plushness, but on the twisties and back road travel...I like it.

The backrest, I designed and had made by a seat maker in Seattle. I've had 4 made up for others here on the site, and I'm getting ready to make a couple more. When you get your bike, if you want one, we can do it for you.

Scott

[collyer 2013 1200S (Corse)]

Thanks for all the info - I just discovered AMS Ducati in Dallas, and they just happen to have a red 2006 1000S DS as a demo bike. So, I'll be going down there for the saturday test ride. Mmmmmmm, Ohlins.

[MultiWiley 2006 1000S DS (Red)]

Let me know about that Duke before sacraficing to the general public. I have a friend in El Paso who may be interested.

[collyer 2013 1200S (Corse)]

I've already gone public with it - but eBay is a ways off.

See it here:

http://www.cycletrader.com/addetail.html?86434533

collyer@pobox.com

[MultiWiley 2006 1000S DS (Red)]

The Duke II on EBay looks pretty sweet. 1500 miles and $4800 so far.

[collyer 2013 1200S (Corse)]

It will go for >$5500. The silly SM fender was put on wrong, and will eventually ruin the headlight cowling (seen it in action). Slippery stock Pirellis, too. Great bike, needs the Y-pipe, different jetting (which mine has). Nice stickers, too. I like the black, but the Orange sparkle is all KTM. Shipping to El Paso from NJ? $650. Borrowing a pick-up to round trip to Dallas? Fuel costs & time.
No state tax/change of state registration fee, inspected until May '07.....

Now how much would you pay......